The Discussion We Need to Have with Pastors

One of the great disappointments of any gathering of pastors is how much of the discussion around our tables, at our conferences, ministerials and seminars revolves around trivialities. We talk more about systems and programs, size of churches, staff hires, staff departures, grumblers and controllers, elders and deacons, ministry structures, what my friend Colin Marshall calls “Trellis Building” or “how to satisfy different groups” in our churches, than we do about Jesus and the wonder of the gospel.


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